>> well, the thing is, cease-fire, we're winning right now. we're working with 1,100 high risk individuals in chicago right now, and 30%, we have them in working jobs now, the other 30% are enrolled back in school, and the others we're working with them, changing how they think about life one day at a time. >> you see that it works? when you put them in a job, it changes? >> once you change their thinking, they're job ready. we can't just work all over the place. the epidemic of violence has hit chicago over the last 30 years. this is nothing that took place overnight. we have to do a lot of work dealing with the families out here, with all of the people throughout chicago, to do the best we can. >> we hear from the political side, it's getting better. the numbers are better in chicago, things are better, but when you walk in the community and organizers and people trying to make it better, they say it's bad. i don't know if it's better, but it's still bad. and that's all that matters. >> you had 506 homicides in 2012.